Took your advice and bought a creative radeon 9600xt 256mb for £26 and got my eye on a few local power supplies.
Hopefully should be here tuesday

What would be the best drivers to use with this card?
I know using the latest drivers for my geforce card wasnt the best,and I went back to old drivers with better results.

Quote from Schooner :

The user comments for this had some negative reviews. Did you ever have any problems with it?

I tried it after seeing above post and found it slowed downloading time on every setting !

think firefox is great and love the add on extensions.
which ones do you guys use?

It’s been a while (and new tyre physics update!) since I last looked at this thread.
Done a 40 lapper the other night and my fastest time was on lap 37!
(I realise fuel /set up is also a factor)
Most races that take part (public) are a lot less than 40 laps, so I never get to drive on optimum tyres.
50% worn tyres option must be easy to implement

right had a look at the PSU
+5 v 11amp
+3.33v 15amp
+12 v 5amp
+12.8v 7.5amp
-12v 0.15amp
+5.05vaux 3amp

hope that helps you guys

Quote from Becky Rose :

I had lots of problems finding a card that would go slow enough to run on an AGP 4x speed port.

Mmmh damm , did you try any of the cards mentioned by Gabkicks.

one good thing they should be cheap now

If the PSU was a big issue then i would be willing to change if not to costly.
would there be a significant difference in graphic quality running without a fan
on memory I wasn't sure either on the correct type. non-ecc / cl2.5 ??
184-Pin PC2100 (266MHz) DIMM is what i got from google

Hi Guys
Help me get the best out of LFS , Been playing for 1 1/2 years and think I need a new GFX card.

I've searched on this subject loads, But the more I read, the more confused I get. Some of the threads just turn into an argument about whether to upgrade to better processors and motherboards or not, and all I want is a graphics card! Defiantly no cash to change pc
And then, the GFX card manufactures use their model numbers just too really screw you up.
So can you point me in the right direction?
I presume I need AGP card and I have 4xAGP. That’s about all I know.(Any point in 8XAGP?)
I have read about processor / motherboard bottlenecks, but am unsure when this would become a problem.
Also would the PSU, being 220w, be able to handle another fan on the GFX card if required?


Current specs

Compaq Presario 6263EA
Windows XP sp 1
2.53 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
8 kb primary memory cache
512 kb secondary memory cache
Board: Compaq 0804h
Bus Clock: 533 MHz
512 MB Memory 266 MHz PC2100 DDR
160gb 7200rpm Barracuda Hard drive ATA100 8 MB Buffer
Creative SB Live sound card
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420
PSU 220 W
Samsung SyncMaster 17" widescreen LCD Monitor pixel response 23ms http://www.samsung.com/Product ... S.asp?page=Specifications
PC spec
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr ... 299&docname=c00032388

I don’t want to spend loads and don't mind buying 2nd hand.
Seen any great deals?

Last edited by Turbo Dad, Tue 30 May 2006, 11:39.

In the UK (we drive on the left) if a lorry in front of me indicates right (outside), he is either over taking something or turning right.
If he indicates left (inside), he’s turning left or it’s safe for me to pass.

Also on track days here ,we are taught to indicate to the side we are moving to , just like on the road , you turn right you signal right .If your turning right , you don’t indicate left to tell the car behind he can pass on the left ...do you ???

I would use my indicators more ,but unsure of how to set them up on my thrustmaster force feedback wheel.

We have tyre temps; why not brake temperatures as well?

Believe me, there is nothing worse than slamming the anchors on into a hairpin to find a big pedalfull of nothing ....scary!

When the brakes are used excessively, the pads can glaze and the fluid can boil leading to brake fade. You’ve got to get your foot of the brakes to allow them to cool before full performance returns.

E.g. I think this would lead to better racing between good safe racers, as the leading driver brakes might heat up while defending the line, while the following driver can be smoother allowing him to pass under braking more easily.

Might not be as good for lesser experienced racers as they come ploughing up your bottom when they get brake fade .

I believe there are two types of rev limiter.

1st type is a fuel cut off , which stops the engine reving any further , but also causes the engine to run lean .This momentary lean condition has the potential of causing det = bang!

2nd type cuts the ignition which is much safer, not sure which type is used in game

had the same thing , just take the pedals apart , you will see a toothed cog interacting with the pedal , just move the teeth a notch or two to give full travel

I definitely don’t have a problem getting them up to temperature; the problem is keeping them from getting to hot while there is still a lot of rubber left early in the race
Being able to use the same set of tyres for the next race would be a great help.
Or I'm sure easier to implement would be an additional tyre selection, with only a change in the rubber depth i.e. R2 full / R2 part
The thickness is obviously altered within the game due to wear rate, so it should be easy to change the starting value for rubber depth.


(Runs away and hides as know nothing about programming :hidesbehi )

Quote from tristancliffe :

Scrubbed means, in the context of F1, having done about a half a dozen laps. Not warn, but's it taken the release agent off the tyre. WE don't have tte problem of release agents, so scrubbed tyres are not required.

Original post was about part worn tyres, I was just trying to give the previous poster some insight by mentioning scrubbed.
For most purposes, racing tyres will benefit from an appropriate 'Scrubbing in' procedure. This provides the best combination of performance and longevity under race conditions. There are several difficulties that arise when using racing tyres if they are not scrubbed in prior to use. The most common is "Cold Graining", where the layer of the tread compound in contact with the track, fails in shear with the layer below. The result is a very visible low frequency, high amplitude rippling effect, not just to remove the outer sheen. But I presume the tyre physics in game are not that advanced (yet )

The suggestion I made was for part worn tyres for shorter races (and probably qualifying as well).I think this is a valid point, especially as this is a racing sim

As Uniamed said, once the tyre is part worn, the rubber is thinner allowing the tyre to cool quicker. Therefore allowing the grip levels to increase quicker in short races.

While racing on a public server, is it possible to view the race on another PC which is on the same internet connection?
When I've got friends round, it would be great for them to watch in a better spectating view on the other PC.(Other than my wheels view)
I have S2 unlocked on the other PC, but when I try and connect it says the user name is already in use.

Is there any way round this apart from buying another licence and setting up another user just to spectate?

thanks gunn , thought it would be locked liked user name
nice one , I'm Scottish once again

Quote from AndroidXP :

lol? Just wear them out by yourself. I've never heard of anybody who wants worn tyres over fresh ones

You cant wear a tyre out yourself before a race because you always start with a fixed car and new tyres.
im sure plently of professional racers use part worn slicks or scrubbed tyres for qualification etc.

Last edited by Turbo Dad, Tue 30 Aug 2005, 15:54.

I find running R2 tyres on short races could be improved by giving us part worn tyres . The thickness of the rubber makes a hugh difference to the way the tyre heats up .i find once they are thinner they cool down alot quicker .

Last edited by Turbo Dad, Sat 24 Jun 2006, 12:15.

while looking at the hotlap charts , i noticed that you could view the times by country.
i am listed under United Kingdom , but i now see that Scotland is listed seperatly .
i dont think the option for Scotland was there when i signed up ,only the U.K.
I might be wrong as these list never have Scotland seperate , but i always look.
I am Scottish ,not a United kingdomite.
i also read that the LFS nations cup had split the UK up into seperate countries.

so is it possible to change??

Last edited by Turbo Dad, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:34.

In this age of global communities, more useful than a unit translator ,would be a language translator. There are often several different languages spoken here on a server, and if these could be displayed in your relevant language (correctly) communication would be much easier.
and I apologize in advance for being ignorant , as I only speak English, and I find most other nationalities have a grasp of a least 2 different languages